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superchef
13th August 2006, 14:13
Does anyone use the above system? Ive just aquired some moulds etc but havent the foggiest how you make the weights up. :banghead:
All i know is that you have to melt the lead! Any help would be gratefully recieved.
thelongwayround
13th August 2006, 14:56
I use one myself.
Have you got the adjuster screw in the bottom of the mould, round spacer, wires with screw on the end, nosecones and gripwires with it?
If so, you are ready to go.
If you have all the above, I can help you through......dead easy 'cos I can do it!
Lin
13th August 2006, 16:21
Hi
We just started trying to mould our own leads. What sort of pot do you use to melt the lead in ? And how long do they take to cool down ? Cheers :smile:
Wanna try and get hold of the Ron Thompson moulds as well (the ones where you can mould more than one lead at a time ), but the tackle shops dont seem to stock them. Anyone know of anywhere fairly local to Dorset or Essex that has them ?
Lin
Lucky Rich
13th August 2006, 17:07
i love the gemini idea , when you go to some place with a long walk ,, you can take a few leads .with a box of fittings that weigh 0 to change all the leads about , it beats carryin 20 different types just in case.........lin ,,,i melt my stuff indoors in a old saucepan ,,,,its very easy ,,,,they cool down very quickly ,,,but after 10 or so the mould gets a bit hot ,,,,but top tip dont get any water near anything it spits,,,,,,,,,
Lin
13th August 2006, 17:26
Hi
Thanks lucky just couple more things though lol
Can you any saucepan ie can it be an aluminium one or cast Iron ?
Do you have to wear a mask ? Cos of any fumes
Thanks
Lin
thelongwayround
13th August 2006, 17:38
You can get v.nasty burns from spitting lead and need to ensure your pan and mould are bone dry before using them.
I just use a small stainless milk pan, as it makes it easier to pour. Fumes can be nasty, so keep area ventilated. You will know when the lead is ready, swills around the pan like mercury when you move it.
Good luck, I find it v.rewarding using my own sinkers, and totally agree with the effectiveness and versatility of gemini system. Well worth shelling out the few extra quid for the complete kit.
Geejayy
13th August 2006, 19:26
Hi
We just started trying to mould our own leads. What sort of pot do you use to melt the lead in ? And how long do they take to cool down ? Cheers :smile:
Lin
me n dad used to use an old bean can with a fold in the lip to pour from ,
always a spare in the bin,
time to cool down ;- only about a minute if that, b4 the outside of the weight cools enough to hold its shape when removed from the mould.
the center will still be molten for a wee while though.
best use heat proof/fire proof glove to handle mould/ + whatever u grip the crucible with.
make sure of good ventilation, re fumes.
ALWAYS, heat up mould / crucible and anything else that is going to contact the molten lead , to remove any trace of moisture or the result can be explosive.
the first pour often results in a part weight moulded , this is coz the lead sets to quickly in a mould that is not yet up to working temp, next pour should be ok though.
all pretty much an echo of whats been posted before.
gord.
superchef
13th August 2006, 22:38
Thanks for all the advice...:wink:
Geejayy
13th August 2006, 22:44
top tip, if useing plain wire for the loops ensure the ends are bent into a little hook to prevent the wire pulling out when cast hard.
codhead
14th August 2006, 07:18
Spend a couple of bob (like I did) on the Gemini mould clamp, it then screws to a piece of wood and makes everything stable, the mould is then a simple push-fit into the clamp.
Lucky Rich
14th August 2006, 18:16
try n keep to using clean lead aswell ,,,,cuts down on the smell ,,,i allways have a spare waste pot handy as well to skim the shale from the top before pooring ,,,,,,,,,its very satisfying looking at 20 shinny leads on a wet sunday afty ,,,,,,,the more u make the less u loose,,,,,,,,preventive medicine,,,,,,,,,,:cheesy: ,,,,,,,,,,rich,,,,,,,
Levrek
14th August 2006, 20:02
Is it me:confused: or am I the only sea-dangler that can`t get on with the Gemini weights?
I find that they fail to hold in big tides...I`ve tried bending the wires,elastic banding the ends and using a 7 oz ...still they breakout.Also they seen to offer a lot of resistance when casting into a headwind.
I have a varied selection in my fishing-box.....I do prefer the breakaway variants......SORRY to spoil the party:loon:
Am I unique......how do others fare with them.
Levrek
Jimbo
14th August 2006, 20:11
Is it me:confused: or am I the only sea-dangler that can`t get on with the Gemini weights?
I find that they fail to hold in big tides...I`ve tried bending the wires,elastic banding the ends and using a 7 oz ...still they breakout.Also they seen to offer a lot of resistance when casting into a headwind.
I have a varied selection in my fishing-box.....I do prefer the breakaway variants......SORRY to spoil the party:loon:
Am I unique......how do others fare with them.
Levrek
Nope - me too.
I use breakaway ones, or home made with fixed wire - can't remember the name of the mould supplier, but they did the aquapedo boat ones too, which I also used to make.
tensenervoushaddock
14th August 2006, 20:14
OK for the tackle-tarts among us, lots of nice colour, very over rated and prefer the breakaway/clones
Lucky Rich
14th August 2006, 20:31
:confused: its not a cheap experiment but if you shell out the 28 quid or so for the mixed box of bits ,,its worth it ,,,,mainly for the saving in carrying loads every were,,,if youve got a fast tide just stick a plastic extension on ,,ive never had to go over 6oz ,,,,,,,,rich ps ,,,mjb i can see some finbar saunders in that one too:biggrin: :biggrin: its prob caus when i was a kid my old man made fixed grip torpedo leads with coat hanger wire & me centerpin real & cane rod had to be stuck on his vespa to get them back in,,, mind u we had fish in them days,,,,,:thumbsup:
fishermanmick
14th August 2006, 22:16
lin, try looking at this website they have all sorts of moulds www.ukhooks.co.uk (http://www.ukhooks.co.uk) plus they seem reasonably priced.
Lin
15th August 2006, 00:42
Hi
Thanks for all the help and advice.
Ill get Mikee making the leads lol. (not really cos I wanna make them as well ) :icon_cool
Lin
Geejayy
15th August 2006, 07:48
Is it me:confused: or am I the only sea-dangler that can`t get on with the Gemini weights?
I find that they fail to hold in big tides...I`ve tried bending the wires,elastic banding the ends and using a 7 oz ...still they breakout.Also they seen to offer a lot of resistance when casting into a headwind.
I have a varied selection in my fishing-box.....I do prefer the breakaway variants......SORRY to spoil the party:loon:
Am I unique......how do others fare with them.
Levrek
hi levrek,
imho, i've found gemini's ;-
don't cast as well as other grip leads.
but hold better or equally as well as the others.
are a real pain to use on sandy/gritty beaches as the damn slots for the wires jam up with sand and the wires don't lock in properly.unless u clear them out each cast.
Lucky Rich
15th August 2006, 17:55
:thumbsup: use a bucket of water to keep your trypod firm ,,then just swish the grit out in when you rebait ,,,easy ,,,,beter still have a spare set up ready to go when you bring it in ,,,,
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